Interview: Elizabeth Olson of ‘Martha Marcy May Marlene’

Posted on October 19, 2011 at 3:59 pm

Martha Marcy May Marlene” is the story of a young woman who returns after living off the grid in a remote group home with a predatory, cult-like leader.  She moves in with her newlywed sister (Sarah Paulson) after years of no contact.  We never get the details of the source of their estrangement or why the young woman who at various times goes by all of the names in the title wanted to give herself to an abusive man.  But we do see that the experience has left her almost feral, without the most basic ability to recognize social norms.

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The young woman who plays Martha Marcy May Marlene is an extraordinary young actress named Elizabeth Olson, who has two more movies coming out and is still completing her studies at NYU.  She is the younger sister of Mary Kate and Ashley Olson, the actresses/producers/moguls, who named one of their fashion lines after her.  She and I sat down for a quiet chat that covered everything from how she came up with the way her character in the film eats, to why she’s not a method actor, and putting on a family-friendly version of “A Chorus Line” at summer camp.

Tell me about looking at the script for the first time.

You don’t get to read many good scripts and this instantly stood out.  It’s a part that gets to navigate so many different experiences and emotions it seemed like something I would have to wait to do, to do the bad stuff before I would get a chance to get to the good stuff.   But they wanted an unknown actress so it was like being in the right place at the right time.  I read twice, first the diner scene and a lighter scene with the sister.

What was the best part of making the film?

Sean Durkin and I work really well together, really honest and direct but he is very gentle so it isn’t off-putting. I said, “I trust you.  Save time and don’t beat around the bush.  If I am not getting it, just tell me.  Tell me if I’m not giving you what you need or if I’m having an off-time.”  I wish I could say that I trusted everyone that much.

You worked with one of my favorite actresses, Sarah Paulson, who plays your sister.  The movie does not tell us very much about their family history.  Did the two of you work something out to fill in those blanks?

We worked six to eight weeks and filmed all the farmhouse stuff first.  She came in and she and Hugh Dancy (who plays her husband) went over things together about their relationship and then she and I sat down and tried to make a timeline that was as specific as possible and understand when was the time that she left and at what point was my character fully abandoned.  In order to figure out all the tensions in the script we had to be so clear with what happened in the past.   Families sometimes do not talk about the things in the past that affect them today.  My family is very good at communicating.  But some never learn how to do that.  This is one of those examples.  We do mention in the film the mother passing away and living with the aunt, so there are those hints.

This character is a challenge because she is so internal.  How do you convey all of her fragility and fear without being able to talk about it?

I kept thinking of the risks that she was willing to take and showing too much fear or vulnerability was a risk for her.  So in every scene, even if she was by herself there had to be something she was reacting against or towards.  There was always something she was in relation to, a sound on the roof, a car outside.  How much she was willing to give that away was the meter I was playing with.  And she has so much energy.  There is an absurd humor in a way at times and projecting anger onto people.  What are the instigators for when that happens?  I am really an analytical person so to try to figure out at what point she was comfortable and when was the peak of her fear was really fun to navigate.  You have do do work.  We all gotta do work on things.

You have classical training as an actress.  How did that affect the way you approached this role?

I studied at the Atlantic Theater Conservatory, founded by William H. Macy and David Mamet.  It’s based off a writer’s view of approaching the script.  Everything the actor does is to serve the script and the story.  Every action you have is to tell the story.  It has nothing to do with your own experience.  It has to do with the function of what you are trying to accomplish.  Another thing that is fundamental is that you are not your character.  They don’t believe in method or emoting.  For something like this, that couldn’t be more helpful!  I had to have an outside perspective and make concrete things happen that I had control over and trust that the story-telling of the script and editing is going to tell the other part.  I don’t have to do the whole thing.

One very telling detail in the movie is your character’s style of eating.  Was that in the script or was it something you developed?

Those things are really fun to play.  She has not eaten in the presence of a man for all the time she has been away.  So at the lake house , for the first time she is eating with a man at the table.  So I played with the fact that I am watching him eat and trying to figure out what our relationship is. And she is used to not being allowed to eat until late in the afternoon, so that seemed odd to her.  Those things that are out of the norm added to what seemed slightly off.  Because she had something happen to her that the audience is trying to figure out as the story goes on, it was fun to try to figure out how much of the backstory I understood, to unravel it myself.

What draws someone to a cult?

For this character I think it was a feeling of purpose and being part of something larger than yourself, that you actually have a home somewhere.  And she felt she had unconditional love.

What movies made you want to act?

When I was young, “Singin’ in the Rain,” “Guys and Dolls,” “Gypsy,” “Pal Joey.” That is what spurred my interest and I went to musical theater camp.  They wouldn’t pay for the rights so we did our own versions.  We did “A Kid’s Chorus Line,” so with different lyrics, and “A Comedy Tonight,” which was our version of “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum.”  My favorite was playing Ado Annie in “Oklahoma.”  I was in 5th grade and my sisters were in 8th grade and brought their guy friends and I was so embarrassed that they were there.  My dream role was Adelaide in “Guys and Dolls.”  My brother influenced me and he has darker taste, like “Return to Oz” and then I started to love Woody Allen and Wes Anderson and as I got older P.T. Anderson and of course “Star Wars” and “Lord of the Rings” and “Gone with the Wind.”  I don’t just want to do indie films; I’d like to try it all!

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Interview: Mike Cahill and Brit Marling of ‘Another Earth’

Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:27 pm

Mike Cahill and Brit Marling co-wrote “Another Earth.”  He directed, shot, and edited, and she stars as Rhoda, a gifted teenager who makes a tragic mistake.  Driving home after a party, she causes an accident that kills a young mother and her son and injures the father, a professor of music, played by William Mapother (“In the Bedroom” and “Lost”).  When she gets out of prison, she goes to see him to apologize, but when he answers the door she loses her nerve.  She tells him she is there to offer a trial house-cleaning service, and ends up going back every week.

Meanwhile, another planet has been discovered that looks exactly like earth, and an industrialist is planning to take an expedition to see if it is really an exact parallel.

It is an extraordinarily accomplished film and I was delighted to get a chance to speak with Mike and Brit.

Mike Cahill

What was it like to have your movie premiere at Sundance?

It was a dream come true, so much fun.  It was interesting to have this little baby and release it to the world there.  The programmers are so cool and thoughtful.  I loved every moment.

And what has been the reaction now that it is about to be released?

It’s been positive.  The Q&A’s have been one of my favorite things.  There’s always something new that comes out of them.  They haven’t been repetitive.

William Mapother is extraordinary in the film.  How did he work with you on creating his character?

I loved how in “In the Bedroom” he had such a fully realized character.  He had this intensity and intimidating screen energy that was wonderful because I could harness that for the beginning of his arc, and then as his character develops, we could crack that open and this joyous light that he does have inside could shine through and it would be really beautiful.  He read the script, we talked for two hours on the phone and he said, “I’m in.”  What was great was that he really dug into his character.  I really wanted to have rehearsals with Brit and he was very generous to give us two weeks.  We would meet every day at his house in Los Angeles and read the script and get on our feet and work through scenes.  I wanted to create an atmosphere that was very free and open for collaboration.  Because both Brit and William cared so deeply and did so much homework, their ideas about how things would unfold were very important to me.  So almost in a Mike Leigh way we would just freeform and feel it out.  We didn’t change too much but we did add a few scenes and tweak a little bit of dialog and subtract some things.  It was really organic and freeing and really helped me.  When someone enters the room who is living from the POV of their character so deeply, and you can tell that they’ve done that hard work of imagining the childhood, the lifelong experience prior to the first frame of the film, they have that passion for the project and what they are bringing is really valuable.

There’s a moment where he’s parked outside her house.  She comes over to the car and William said, “My character would ask her to come around the other side because he’d be scared of traffic, right?” One little line, one little idea, yet so meaningful about that person’s life and experience.  One extra beat in the film but it adds a great deal of authenticity.

One thing that surprised me about the film is how expensive it looks because I know you made it for very little money.  If you had another million dollars in the budget, what would you have spent it on?

Better craft services!  I think the budgetary constraints are a gift to the artist.  Your mind has to be creative in different ways and it opens up different channels and makes you think of interesting solutions.   I wouldn’t change it.  I’d pay everyone more if I had more money but that’s it.

One of my favorite scenes is when the earth scientist communicates with her counterpart on the other planet.  It was really well done.

That was inspired by the moon landing.  The everyman and everywoman experience of watching it on television, and all these people walking out of their houses and looking up at the moon.  I took those stories and said, we’re not the hundred million dollar Hollywood movie, where you can show the spacecraft landing.  We’re telling the story of the people who watch what is happening on television.  And somehow there is a power and connection because it affects everyone.  And that moment when she realizes she is talking to herself in a way worked on the page, in rehearsals, right from the beginning.  The performance by Diane Cielsa was wonderful, so specific.

Tell me about your ideas on the look of the film.

There were certain colors that were very important.  In the first ten minutes of the film, Rhoda has this red dress and it’s the only time we see red.  It was symbolic of her energy and vitality.  Later we only see it with the two things that remind us of John’s past, his child’s robot and his wife’s sweater.  Other than that, it’s all blue, gray, very drab.  All of it reflects the story.  As their relationship begins to blossom, the colors warm up.  As he gets his life back, he begins to dress like the man he was.  We wanted it to be subtle but enough to inform the story.

You mentioned Mike Leigh.  What other film-makers have inspired you?

Julian Schnabel’s film, “Basquiat” made me want to make films.  I’d always been interested in film but it was my hobby.  There was something about the way he made the film, so freeing, breaking convention in an artful way, it is poetry.  Then I became obsessed!  And I love Krzysztof Kieslowski, the way his films are based in realism but with something magical underneath.

You didn’t study film at Georgetown.  You studied economics.

With economics, you understand incentives, opportunity costs, efficiency, all vital elements to making a film and living life!

Brit Marling

Mike told me about how closely you worked with William Mapother on your characters and their relationship.  What was that like for you?

The moment he signed on was the moment we had a movie.  Mike and I had both seen his work in “Lost,” and when the casting director recommended him, and we were like, “He’s perfect!  The part seemed so right for him.”  He has such a gravitas on screen.  No one else could have filled out the part the way he did.  He has this intense energy and this very deep romantic side.  He is really thorough at how he approaches the character, which is really inspiring.  He thinks of every date, the times, the season, what it has been like to be on these medicines, what he is still taking, how that is affecting him.  It feels very real because he’s done his homework.  He also showed us that Rhoda and John needed a bit more time to come together.  He said, “I wouldn’t open up that quickly.  It’s going to take a few goes.”  We added more time, more breath into that and it felt more natural.

How do you as a screenwriter learn from your experience as an actress or the other way around?

When you begin the acting part of it, you’ve done a lot of the homework for the part through the writing.  You have spent so much time daydreaming and imagining Rhoda from a writing perspective that when you put on the actor hat you have already thought through quite a bit of the story.  You’re always trying to say the most through the fewest number of scenes and the least dialog.  The power of cinema is not auditory — someone once told me a play is 80 percent auditory and 20 percent visual and a film is the reverse.  You’re really thinking of everything as part of the whole.  How do you get to the heart of the relationship between two people in three scenes as opposed to five?  How can you keep whittling it away to get to the center of emotion?

You set a challenge for yourself as an actress in creating a character who does so much internally, very subdued.  You had to convey a lot through expression rather than dialog.

I didn’t really notice because when you’re in it, you feel like it is deafeningly loud.  The emotions are like nuclear bombs and fireworks are going on inside you, the sight of his house — you don’t say anything because you don’t need to.  What could you possibly say?

Rhoda is befriended by a janitor who takes a shocking and tragic step.  Tell me about his contribution to the story.

We felt that both John and Rhoda really needed to be disconnected from other people.  That’s why the connection they find in each other is so important.  But we also liked the idea of someone who has a foil or a mirror to Rhoda who is also suffering tremendous grief.  You don’t find out why but you don’t need to.  They recognize in each other the symptoms of grief.  And in the way he hurts himself, you feel that potential danger for her, too.  You see what that intensity of internal suffering can cause.

What does the element of science fiction, which is underplayed but important, add to this film?

I love “Twelve Monkeys,” the power of that final scene.  There is something about science fiction that can get to the ineffable things that we feel but cannot explain, the way we feel connected to each other and to alternate versions of ourselves.  We can’t articulate that yet through science.  Are there an infinite number of mes talking to an infinite number of yous?  Science fiction, like spirituality, gives us a vocabulary, a poetry, a breath, to get to the unsayable things.

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Breakthrough Performer: Katie Leclerc

Posted on June 8, 2011 at 3:59 pm

ABC Family has a new series about two families who discover that their teenage daughters were switched at birth.  The girl who grew up with a single hairdresser mom and the girl who grew up in the wealthy home of a former pro athlete meet their biological families for the first time.  It’s a very good show and one of its brightest stars is Katie Leclerc.  She plays the bright, confident biological daughter who grew up with the single mother.  And she is deaf, and attends a school for the deaf, though in the first episode it looks like she will transfer to the school her biological parents want her to attend.

Leclerc has Ménière’s disease, a disorder of the inner ear.  She is fluent in American Sign Language.  She has a dazzling smile and a glowing presence on screen.  It is a joy to see the portrayal of a character who has a disability but is neither a saint nor a victim, and it is an equal joy to celebrate the arrival of a talented newcomer who has the skill and charisma to become a major star.  The show has an appreciation of deaf culture and being deaf is just a part of who the character is.  The excellent cast also includes Lucas Grabeel, Lea ThompsonVanessa Marano, and Constance Marie.  Don’t miss this show.

 


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May MVP — Tom Hiddleston

Posted on May 14, 2011 at 3:59 pm

Tom Hiddleston is about to be a big star.  But I can’t say too much about why.

This month alone, he plays Loki, the super-villain in Thor and he has an important part in Woody Allen’s new film, “Midnight in Paris.”  Those of you who have seen “Thor” and stayed through the credits know how important Loki is.  For those who have not, I will just say that when you go, watch Hiddleston.  Director Kenneth Branagh made a savvy decision in casting the Cambridge-educated actor.  In the middle of a superhero special effects blockbuster, Hiddleston gives a performance of grace and complexity that is exactly serves the tone of the film.  I always say that superhero movies should be judged by their villains and he may be the best of all time.

I can’t give away any of the surprises of “Midnight in Paris” by even saying what part he plays.  I will just say that it is a daunting challenge — some in the audience will have strong feelings about the character and others may know nothing about him and there are some complexities of tone and tempo.  And Hiddleston is superb.  Next, he will appear in “The War Horse,” based on a huge box office hit play in London (recently opened on Broadway) and directed by Steven Spielberg.  I can’t wait to see it.

In this clip, he talks about the importance of compassion, even compassion for the characters he plays.

 

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