Interview: Sebastian Evans, Composer of “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles”

Interview: Sebastian Evans, Composer of “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles”

Posted on August 4, 2016 at 3:55 pm

Pictured: Raphael (red mask), Leonardo (blue mask), April (red hair), Donatello (purple mask) and Michelangelo (orange mask), in TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES on Nickelodeon. Photo: Nickelodeon. ©2012 Viacom, International, Inc. All Rights Reserved
©2012 Viacom, International, Inc. All Rights Reserved

Sebastian Evans is the composer whose music instantly puts kids in the world of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, with enough of the original melody to be familiar to parents who grew up with the heroes on the half-shell but enough that is new to match the fresh and exciting updates in the series and feel contemporary for today’s kids. In an interview, Evans spoke about his earliest memories of playing music and which movie composers he admires the most.

Where did you grow up and what was the first instrument you played?

Most of my early childhood was spent in the Bay Area/Alameda County part of Northern California. Though I lived in Hayward, I suppose I spent most of my time in Oakland and San Leandro. When I was 10, my family moved to Vacaville.

My parents would say the first instrument I played was drums. In the kitchen. Using wooden spoons for drum sticks and pots and pans for drums. For hours on end. I don’t remember that so I must have been really young. But if that doesn’t count, it would have to be a “Casio SK-8 keyboard” that I got when I was around 7 or 8 years old for Christmas. It had some kind of click-in hard drive pack that could record and playback what you played. It also had a training mode where you could follow along as it played songs. I think my parents were surprised at how dedicated I was to learning how to play the songs it came with as well as making up stuff and recording it. I also wouldn’t go anywhere without it.

How is composing for TV and film different from writing a song?

Copyright 2016 Sebastian Evans
Copyright 2016 Sebastian Evans

I believe that writing a song is just a form of self-expression at its core. A song, or even an album for that matter, is all about what I feel, what I think, what concerns ME, etc. Or what makes US happy or sad if it’s a band or group. Writing a song is a bit one sided as far as perspective goes by nature. When I write music for TV or film its not just self-expression. I think a composer’s job is to convey those aspects of the human condition in characters and environments made up out of thin air. I’m trying to convey moods, tone and emotions from multiple perspectives. There’s a little more “extrospection” required. I should be clear that music is just one form of art out of many working in concert to achieve that purpose. I believe that my self-reflections on my own emotions from past experiences inform those perspectives so that’s where the self-expression comes into play but it is different even if it’s just a slight difference.

At what point in the production do you get involved and what does the director give you by way of guidance?

I usually have an initial meeting with the producer and the director about 2 or 3 months prior to post production. When we get a little closer to a locked picture of an episode that’s when I usually have an in depth discussion with the director about what’s needed. Every director I’ve worked with is different. Some want to hear your thoughts on how you’d approach the project and go from there. Other times a director will have a pretty solid idea on what is needed musically and then the process starts from trying to realize that idea. Some are a hybrid of both. For me, the director is the most important creative person on a project because that is the only person that has an all-encompassing vision of the project. How I approach any project always starts with the director.

How does the theme for the new TMNT echo the original series and what did you do to make it fresh?

Well, minus the melody, the chorus is pretty much the same. I will say that it was a significant challenge to create a new version of something that has been a constant earworm since childhood. So when Nickelodeon requested I take a stab at remaking it I was initially at a lost. But one day I was driving somewhere with my iTunes library blasting on random when “Intergalactic” by the Beastie Boys came on. I had an “ah ha!” moment. I’ll make it a rap! After that epiphany the theme came very quickly and easily. It’s a fun hip hop song with a super hero-ish undertone.

Which is your favorite turtle and why?

It’s always been Donatello. I’ve always identified aspects of other characters I like in him. He’s R2-D2-like in his focus and resourcefulness. He’s Batman-like in his detective-like attention to detail as well as his intelligence and ability to create tools to give the turtles an edge over the enemy. He’s Clark Kent-like in his awkwardness and sincerity when interacting with others. Also, he’s just a genius!

How is writing for series aimed at kids different from writing for edgier series designed for adult audiences?

Well, full disclosure: I have not yet had the chance to write for a series geared towards adult audiences. But I would imagine that the score for an adult show would be far more subtle and intricate. Most animated shows aimed at a younger audience utilize music as well as sound effects more conspicuously to embellish visual aspects of a scene in order to obtain the same sense of realism you get while watching a filmed show. Though the voice actors are always amazing, the facial expressions and body language of the characters are created at a different time. So music and sound is also leaned on to re-assemble the voice actors performance with the visual artists’ interpretation. For the most part, scores for adult shows are understated. You’re really going for a more visceral connection with the audience. At least until the army invades or a building blows up.

Do you ever bring in unusual instruments or sounds?

Yeah. Sometimes you need different tools to get across what you want. In the second season of TMNT I used a theremin for the Dimension X theme. I really wanted to bring that 50’s sci-fi horror/Mars Attacks vibe to it. The sound of the theremin carries those connotations with it and fit perfectly with what I was trying to convey.

Do you have a favorite classic movie score or composer?

Michael Nyman’s score for “The Piano” has to be my favorite score. I can’t say I have one favorite composer. Thomas Newman, Nobuo Uematsu, Jon Brion, Edvard Grieg, Danny Elfman, Peter Tchaikovsky, Jeff Beal, Bernard Herrmann. John Williams, of course. I’m a big fan of Michael Giacchino who’s doing amazing things right now. I’m sure that list would change slightly depending on what day I was asked.

If you could compose for any movie, would you pick sci-fi, action/adventure, comedy, or drama?

If I were to think practically, I’d say drama. It’s what comes to me naturally and it’s what I feel most at my core. But I’d love to create a huge epic score for an awesome sci-fi or fantasy movie or series.

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TMNT and AirBnB: You Can Stay in the Turtles’ NY Apartment!

Posted on May 16, 2016 at 5:36 pm

Leo, Raph, Donnie and Mikey are offering fans a chance to enjoy their secret lair in New York City while they’re out fighting Shredder and gearing up for their next big screen adventure, Paramount Pictures’ and Nickelodeon Movies’ “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out Of The Shadows.”

The fully loaded TMNT pad in Tribeca is the perfect place to fuel up on pizza before shooting hoops on the basketball court or playing video games at the gaming station – all in the lair! Crime-fighting Turtles like space and there’s enough to sleep up to six fans per night between May 14 – June 2. They’ll be back the day their movie opens on June 3. Stays are limited to one night only to accommodate all TMNT fans.

Check out the Ninja Turtles Lair listing on Airbnb here:

Follow “TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES: OUT OF THE SHADOWS” on Twitter for room availability; additional nights will be made available every few days.

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April O’Neil: Feminist Progress or Passive Object?

Posted on August 13, 2014 at 8:00 am

Photo by David Lee - © MMXIV - Paramount Pictures Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
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Could it be possible that Megan Fox as April O’Neil is the strongest heroine in any of the big summer blockbusters? Despite the title, April is in many ways the main character in “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.” The film starts out focusing on her story as an intrepid would-be investigative reporter frustrated by the low expectations of her bosses (including Whoopi Goldberg) as she bravely pursues the big story. She continues to show courage and integrity throughout. Amanda Hess writes on Slate:

Yes, the new movie is truly awful, but the gender politics, at least, have improved.

When Megan Fox was cast as April, Laird complained that there were “hundreds of better choices for the role.” But Fox—the actress Bay previously hired to play an animated wet dream in his Transformers movies, then fired for being too sassy—is actually perfectly cast as a woman who’s long been dismissed as just a pretty face, and is itching to step into a more challenging role. In this iteration, April still ultimately chooses to team up with the ninja turtles instead of exposing them to make her name as a serious journalist. But this time, the movie actually writes April her own superheroine backstory (as a little girl, April bravely saved the mutant baby turtles that later grew into ninja teens) and gives her a real motivation for compromising her career (she does it, naturally, to avenge her father’s death). Along the way, she’s allowed to push some big buttons, flip some important levers, and drop-kick some evil villains as she fights alongside the turtles to defeat a corporate terrorist hell-bent on chemically attacking New York City in order to secure some government grants. It’s all incredibly stupid. But at least it’s equally stupid for girls and boys.

On the other hand, my friend Sandie Angulo Chen wrote in her insightful Washington Post review:

Although the character of April was attractive in earlier “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” iterations, it’s disappointing (if predictable) that she’s overly sexualized in this installment. Mikey (Noel Fisher), he of the aroused carapace, is supposed to be smitten, but must he talk only about her hotness? Meanwhile, April’s loyal cameraman, Vern (Will Arnett), is perpetually ogling her body — even in moments of extreme peril. Maybe we shouldn’t be surprised by such fare from producer Michael Bay, but the character — not to mention young viewers of this Nickelodeon co-production — deserve better…Unfortunately, even during crowd-pleasing thrills, the comic relief once again circles back to the script’s favorite topic: April’s sex appeal. “Yes, that’s good,” Vern says, leering as she attempts a daredevil pose in a moving car.

Fiona Duncan looks at this version of April in the context of the previous Turtle Tales.

“We took the archetype of April O’Neil,” says Liebesman, “the damsel in distress, and really molded it specifically to Megan… April is a character with a lot to prove. She’s beautiful but everyone doubts her, so we needed an actress who could literally give that sense that there’s far more there than meets the eye.” His latter claim fails in this film, as there’s not a single scene where there’s not a big deal made out of Fox’s hotness. Hotness is the butt of every April joke, including a couple, well, on her butt.

The most feminist (as in, most believable as a human) April was Judith Hoag in the 1990, first live-action Ninja Turtle film. HOAG’S APRIL was smart, determined, and permed like an Adrian Lyne working woman; sometimes sexy, but not always. Predictably, Hoag was replaced by a more bubbly actress in the sequel (Paige Turco). “That was New Line’s call,” Hoag recently commented.

Looking at all the Aprils, we time travel through, not a history of American women or feminism, but of American entertainment media, including Hollywood’s move to fantastical franchises. April O’Neil is a damsel in distress now that she’s bound to Banal-lywood, which is distressing (Fox is a far cry from the independent arguably woman of color O’Neil started as), but what else is new?

They’re all right. I was glad to see April showing some spirit in this film, but sorry to see that one of the many disappointments of the film was the way that Liebesman and producer Michael Bay tried to have it both ways, with April asking for respect but the men making the film not willing to give Megan Fox any.

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WIN TMNT Prizes Including Nintendo Game!

Posted on August 12, 2014 at 10:04 am

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The heroes on the half shell are back with a blockbuster box office hit! If you’re a fan of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, this contest is for you. It includes a Nintendo game, a Raphael mask, a Leonardo action figure (his arm swings the sword!), and a big foam turtle hand.  Plus a pass to see the movie!!  Cowabunga, dudes!  To enter, send me an email at moviemom@moviemom.com with Turtles in the subject line and tell me your favorite kind of pizza.  DON’T FORGET YOUR ADDRESS.  (US addresses only).  I’ll pick a winner at random on August 21, 2014.  Good luck!!

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Quotes of the Week: Trashing the Turtles

Posted on August 10, 2014 at 3:35 pm

Copyright 2014 Paramount StudiosThe Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie inspired some howls of outrage from critics.  As usual, when movies are good, the writers I admire are good, but when they’re bad, they’re better.

I enjoyed this one from Salon’s Andrew O’Hehir:

Yes, every moment when the ultra-buff turtles are on screen, busting each other’s chops, doing human beat-box routines and ineptly pitching woo at Megan Fox (because they’re, you know, teenagers) was so acutely painful that I had to draw on my own ninja training and reflect intensively on the transitory nature of all phenomena, just to fend off the profound yearning for death.

Charlie Jane Anders spells it out in the headline over at i09: The New Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Movie Fails in Every Possible Way.  Count number one:

Any time you revamp a beloved series like TMNT, you have to please the die-hard fans while also appealing to newcomers. And unfortunately, this film feels like it’s not quite going to do either of those things — I’m guessing the redesigned turtles are too weird-looking, and the storyline is too generic and off-base, to please long-time Turtle-lovers, while neophytes will wonder what the fuss was about.

It’s the classic problem: this movie goes out of its way to shoehorn in all of the trappings (pizza, ninjitsu, “heroes on the half shell,” etc.) but misses the core of what made people love the Ninja Turtles back in the day — their basic weirdness and silliness. Great care is taken with the surface, but the core is completely empty.

(Plus in a weird echo of last year’s Lone Ranger, the Turtles are apparently embarrassed to say “Cowabunga,” and apologize profusely before actually saying it.)

She goes on to take down the film in every category: not funny, poorly staged action, poor use of CGI.  Basically, she’s a ninja critic.

On Grantland, Wesley Morris uses a variation on Karl Marx (who would approve this update, I am sure):

 In Hollywood, history repeats first as farce, then as marketing.

And Chase Whale needs just one word.

Cowabummer.

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